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Manly ferries / Re: Ferry numbers to fill rosters
« on: January 14, 2011, 08:52:51 PM »
Interesting reply Freshwater. What makes me think about a greater number of ferries employed is from photographs taken of Circular Quay. Photographs show that two ferries were usually berthed on either side of the wharf. This is an extremely rare occurence these days. I don't know if this other ferry was a peak hour boat waiting to go into service or part of a 4 boat roster. Two ferries at the Quay are shown in pictures taken in the 60s but I haven't seen it happen in the 1970s.

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Manly ferries / Ferry numbers to fill rosters
« on: January 14, 2011, 07:28:52 PM »
I have wondered how many Manly ferries were employed on a daily basis to fill the rosters in the 1920s given there were twice the numbers of ferries available. It's well known that steam ferries didn't have the availability of the modern diesel ferries and some would have to have time deducted for coaling, boiler washouts and tube cleaning and given that it was the only way to get to Manly, at least three to four ferries would to have to been employed to work the rosters. Coaling would have been a major job considering the design of the ferries. In Newcastle on the punts coaling was much easier given their design. At Newcastle a truck was backed onto the ferry and the coal was tipped into a grating and the spill was quickly shovelled in by the deckhands.

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Harbour ferries / Re: Great Ferry Race winners
« on: January 11, 2011, 07:27:10 AM »
I don't really know much about the course and how tight it is but hasn't a Manly ferry ever entered the race?

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Today in history / Re: Kuring-gai launched 1901 (109 years ago)
« on: December 13, 2010, 07:14:34 PM »
I actually see the old Kuring-gai more than any other ferry as I am a frequent user of the Hexham bridge.

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Today in history / Re: North Head retired 1985 (25 years ago)
« on: December 13, 2010, 07:09:11 PM »
North Head was always my favourite Manly ferry. The very first one I travelled on was the Bellubera, from Manly to Sydney in August 1973 when I was 8 years old. I've been on the Baragoola, with vibrating windows and the South Steyne on Newcastle harbour. The most frequent trips I made as a very young boy was the wonderful punts, Koondooloo, Lurgurena and Kooroongaba. The diesel ferries may be efficient and easy to operate but they could never give the smooth ride of an old steam ferry.
Mark

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The Scottish threesome / Re: South Steyne - Illustrated History
« on: December 11, 2010, 08:12:52 PM »
Great footage on that film clip. Quite a few inner harbour steamers there too.

I can not believe how much our Aussie accent has changed in just 50 years.

Many of us have lost that very distinctive sound now. Just listen to the narrator and the Lord Mayor of Sydney. I love it.

Cheers mate


Hi Ric,
        The Australian accent changed after WW1 in response to the horric numbers of deaths. It was in a way anti British. The accent now has reverted to that of pre WW1. This was what I learn't at school. So I hope its accurate.
Mark


Ric

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The 'B' class ferries / The colour of the Manly Ferries
« on: December 05, 2010, 08:25:18 AM »
I would suspect that the colour change of the Manly ferries in part was in response to the forthcoming Sydney Harbour Bridge. It may have been to brighten up the fleet after years of drab black hulls. But I think attracting people away from cars might have been part of the idea. 1928 was four years before the bridge was opened but it fits with the colour change seen on the NSW Railways in the early 1930s where passenger locomotives were painted maroon and an attractive green colour.

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The 'B' class ferries / Re: Baragoola 5/6/7 November
« on: November 09, 2010, 07:45:42 PM »
Excellent work. The old girl looks wonderful.

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The 'B' class ferries / Re: Baragoola
« on: August 29, 2010, 12:32:19 AM »
The Balgowlah's steam engine developed 1400 IHP for 16 knots while the Curl Curl developed 3200 IHP for 17.75 knots. The heavier displacement and 4 feet greater beam required a lot of power for an increase of nearly 2 knots and no gain in passenger capacity. Maybe the company would have been better to build another long B Class (equal in length to the Balgowlah)  with higher boiler pressure and very slight increase in cylinder size on the main engine.

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The 'B' class ferries / Re: The story of the Burra Bra
« on: August 26, 2010, 07:18:27 PM »
The Burra Bra was retired from service when the RAN aquired her in 1942. Its seems strange that the RAN would think her former owner would want her back and having to pay for her reconversion to a ferry.

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I agree with Ric that the far vessel is the Binngarra. I can't place the other vessels but they are the later model "Bs" if you could call them that. The hulls are longer and the funnels are taller. Both Binngarra and Burra Bra had shorter funnels.

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The Freshwater class ferries / Re: Name that location
« on: August 02, 2010, 01:53:05 PM »
Is it Cockatoo Island?

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The Scottish threesome / Re: DeeWhy in rough seas
« on: July 21, 2010, 08:16:54 AM »
It could be the Balgowlah as their is a photograph of her on the harbour in war time grey paint with extended wheelhouses. Another depicts her at Manly in 1940 with the shorter Burra Bra style wheelhouse (which the Barrenjoey was still carrying in 1947). So the new standard wheelhouse must have been fitted to the Balgowlah during the war years.

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Ladies old and new / Re: LADY WOODWARD TO LIVE ON AT TIN CAN BAY
« on: July 15, 2010, 06:59:54 PM »
Thanks so much for the pics, oceanav.

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Ladies old and new / Re: LADY WOODWARD TO LIVE ON AT TIN CAN BAY
« on: July 14, 2010, 07:20:45 PM »
Good luck with your new home. I would love to see to photos of the bridge and engine room.
Regards
Mark

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